question from a user
I am currently on a protocol that is HCG based "monotherapy" it has been working great it seems, especially on bloodwork, but I wonder if I'm feeling it the same as normal TRT,is it in my head? Also, my protocol is HCg600iu weekly + .25arim eod + 25mg Clomid eod. Does this sound good? I know there are manh varying opinions around hcg+clomid at the same time as in potentially counteracting each other, but there is also circumstances the opposite. I know for myself it was only until I added the Clomid to the protocol did my mood and energy seem to stabilize better and testicles went from riding super high, to sitting/hanging normal. I am varying between what I'm interpreting as 900-1200Ng/DL which theoretically seems amazing, but still don't feel quite right. Am I wrong or crazy for wanting to switchthe protocolto TrT[cyp or enethamte) + lowered dose hcg , or shouldIjust stick the course? (please feel free to look at my bloods in bio/posts) ***I know can't be medical advice and would be purely non official/professional opinion amd anecdote.
AlphaMD's Answer
Clomid & HCG are fine together, they come at the problem from different avenues to try and accomplish the same thing.
You're not crazy to want to swap to traditional TRT, there are some differences. It will indeed feel different.
You could stick with HCG 500-600ui weekly if you're wanting to maintain test size & you can get it cheaply. You would want to drop the Clomid & pick up Test cyp, dosing determined by your provider. A typical good starting range is 140mg-160mg a week.
Why the swap? Clomid negatively impacts and inhibits IFG-1 in the body. One of the main reasons that men get on TRT is for fitness. IGF-1 is the portion of TRT that is responsible for increase muscle gain, retention, and thus part metabolism. All things one assumes will happen with more Testosterone. So on paper you may have higher levels of T, but you don't have the same IGF-1 as you would if that was achieved with Testosterone + HCG or Testosterone stand alone.
Some food for thought. Opinion: You already are on a "PCT" that you can go back to and regain similar function if you don't like it, so there's really no harm in trying out a moderate Testosterone injection regimen for at least 8 weeks and seeing how it feels. You'll know for sure what you like then.
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